Revit calculates the wire sizes for power circuits based on the size specified for circuit protection, voltage drop calculation, and correction factor.
Wire sizes are defined in the Electrical Settings dialog.
The voltage drop for each circuit is reported as line-to-line for 2-pole (single phase) and 3-pole (three phase) circuits. The voltage drop is reported as line-to-neutral for 1-pole circuits.
Wire Sizing Examples
In this example, the following wire type settings are specified for two circuits created in the project, carried in steel conduit.
Material | Temperature Rating | Insulation | Max Size | Neutral Multiplier | Neutral Required | Neutral Size | Conduit Type |
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Copper | 90 C | THHN | 500 MCM | 1.5 | Yes | Hot Conductor | Steel |
Copper | 75 C | THWN | 500 MCM | 1.0 | Yes | Hot Conductor | Steel |
Feeder Circuit 1
Circuit | Power Factor | Voltage | Load | Poles | Rating | Wire Type | Ambient Temperature | Length of the Wiring Run |
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Feeder | 0.8 | 240 V | 12 kVA | 2 | 50A | THHN | 80 F | 100 ft. |
- The circuit rating (50A) and wire type (THHN, Copper, 90C) determine the basic sizing for the hot conductor size. The basic wire size table, without considering the ambient temperature, calls for 2-#8 hot conductors for circuit 1.
- The neutral conductor is sized as 1.5 times the cross sectional area of the hot conductors. A #8 hot conductor has a cross sectional area of 0.0129686799 sq. in. Applying the 1.5 multiplier (1.5 * 0.0129686799 = 0.01945301985 sq. in.), the basic wire size table calls for a #6 wire (area of 0.0206119720 sq. in.), which provides the minimum area that satisfies the neutral conductor requirement. The Neutral conductor is sized as 1-#6.
- The ground conductor size table for a 50A copper conductor calls for a #10 ground conductor (#10 is adequate for up to 60A).
Preliminary sizing for the wiring package for circuit 1 is 2-#8, 1-#6, and 1-#10. However, the sizing must consider the correction factor (based on the ambient temperature) and support less than a 2 percent voltage drop at the furthest fixture from the source.
- Assuming the #8 hot conductors at an ambient temperature of 80 degrees Fahrenheit (correction factor =1), the voltage drop calculation is VD = (L * Z * I)/1000:
- Length (L) = 100 ft.
- Impedance (Z) = 1.326 from Wire Impedance table for #8 in steel conduit at 80 degrees
- Load (I) = 50A
VD = (100 ft. *1.326 * 50A)/1000 = 6.63 V
6.63/240 = 0.027625 = 2.7625% which exceeds the 2 percent allowable voltage drop.
- Assume #6 hot conductors (wiring package is adjusted to 2-#6, 1-#6, and 1-#10) and calculate the voltage drop again.
VD = (100 ft. * 0.860 * 50A)/1000 = .3
.3/240 = 0.017917 = 1.7917% within the 2 percent allowable voltage drop.
- The neutral conductor is sized, 1.5 * 0.020611972 = 0.030917958 sq. in. The basic wire size table calls for a #4 wire (area of 0.0327813057 sq. in.), which provides the minimum area that satisfies the adjusted neutral conductor requirement. The Neutral conductor is resized as 1-#4.
- The ground conductor must be changed in proportion to the change in the hot conductors:
- Cross sectional area of #8 = 0.029686799 sq. in.
- Cross sectional area of #6 = 0.0206119720 sq. in.
- Ratio = 1.5893
- 1.5893 * 0.0081552613 sq. in. = 0.01296115 sq. in. The ground conductor must be resized to #8.
The wiring package is adjusted to 2-#6, 1-#4, 1#8.
Feeder Circuit 2
Circuit | Power Factor | Voltage | Load | Poles | Rating | Wire Type | Ambient Temperature | Length of the Wiring Run |
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Branch | 0.9 | 208 V | 24 kVA | 3 | 70A | THHN | 80 F | 150 ft. |
- The circuit rating (70A) and wire type (THHN, Copper, 90 C) determine the basic sizing for the hot conductors. The basic wire size table calls for #6 hot conductors.
- The neutral conductor is sized as 1.5 times the cross sectional area of the hot conductors (1.5 * 0.0521172118 sq. in. = 0.0781758177 sq. in.).
The neutral conductor is sized as 1- 1/0 (0.0829065680 sq. in.).
- The ground conductor size table for a 70A copper conductor calls for a #6 ground conductor.
Before considering voltage drop and ambient temperature, the wiring package consists of 3-#6, 1-1/0, and 1-#6.
- The voltage drop calculation is (VD = (L * R * I)/1000:
- I = 24,000 kVA / 208 * sqrt(3) = 66.6 A
- VD = (150 ft. * 0.812 * 100A)/1000 = 8.11V
- 8.11/208 = 0.039 = 3.9% greater than the 2% allowable voltage drop
Working in reverse from the 2 percent allowable voltage drop and solving for impedance:
- 208V * 0.02 = 4.16V = maximum allowable voltage drop
- 4.16V = (150ft. * R * 66.6A)/1000
- VD = 4.16V / ((150 ft. * 66.6A) / 1000) 0.416 which is approximately the impedance factor for #2 wire in steel conduit, in a 3-phase circuit.
The hot conductors are resized as 3-#1.
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The neutral conductor is resized to #4 wire (1.5 * 0.0206119720 sq. in. = 0.030917958 sq. in.).
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The #6 ground conductor (0.0206119720 sq. in.) must be changed in proportion to the change in the hot conductors:
- Cross sectional area of original #2 hot conductor = 0.0521172118 sq. in.
- Cross sectional area of new #1 hot conductor = 0.0657664432 sq. in.
- Ratio = 1.26
- 1.26 * 0.0206119720 sq. in. = 0.02597108472 sq. in. = #4 wire
The ground conductor is resized to #4 wire.
The wiring package is adjusted to 3-#1, 1-#4, 1#4.
Wire Impedance Factors
For the purposes of Voltage Drop calculations, Revit always assumes Copper conductors. The volt loss tables below are consistent with the Cooper Bussmann® Selecting Protective Devices Handbook. The values indicate the line-to-line voltage drop per 1000 Amp Feet for three phase and single phase circuits. For line to neutral voltage drop on three phase systems, divide by 1.73; for single phase systems, divide by 2.
Conduit | Wire Size | Three Phase | Single Phase | ||||||||
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Power Factor (%) | 100 | 90 | 80 | 70 | 60 | 100 | 90 | 80 | 70 | 60 | |
Steel | 14 | 5.369 | 4.887 | 4.371 | 3.848 | 3.322 | 6.2 | 5.643 | 5.047 | 4.444 | 3.836 |
12 | 3.464 | 3.169 | 2.841 | 2.508 | 2.172 | 4 | 3.659 | 3.281 | 2.897 | 2.508 | |
10 | 2.078 | 1.918 | 1.728 | 1.532 | 1.334 | 2.4 | 2.214 | 1.995 | 1.769 | 1.54 | |
8 | 1.35 | 1.264 | 1.148 | 1.026 | 0.9 | 1.56 | 1.46 | 1.326 | 1.184 | 1.04 | |
6 | 0.848 | 0.812 | 0.745 | 0.673 | 0.597 | 0.98 | 0.937 | 0.86 | 0.777 | 0.69 | |
4 | 0.536 | 0.528 | 0.491 | 0.45 | 0.405 | 0.62 | 0.61 | 0.568 | 0.519 | 0.468 | |
3 | 0.433 | 0.434 | 0.407 | 0.376 | 0.341 | 0.5 | 0.501 | 0.47 | 0.434 | 0.394 | |
2 | 0.346 | 0.354 | 0.336 | 0.312 | 0.286 | 0.4 | 0.409 | 0.388 | 0.361 | 0.331 | |
1 | 0.277 | 0.292 | 0.28 | 0.264 | 0.245 | 0.32 | 0.337 | 0.324 | 0.305 | 0.283 | |
1/0 | 0.207 | 0.228 | 0.223 | 0.213 | 0.2 | 0.24 | 0.263 | 0.258 | 0.246 | 0.232 | |
2/0 | 0.173 | 0.196 | 0.194 | 0.188 | 0.178 | 0.2 | 0.227 | 0.224 | 0.217 | 0.206 | |
3/0 | 0.136 | 0.162 | 0.163 | 0.16 | 0.154 | 0.158 | 0.187 | 0.188 | 0.184 | 0.178 | |
4/0 | 0.109 | 0.136 | 0.14 | 0.139 | 0.136 | 0.126 | 0.157 | 0.162 | 0.161 | 0.157 | |
250 | 0.093 | 0.132 | 0.128 | 0.129 | 0.128 | 0.108 | 0.142 | 0.148 | 0.149 | 0.148 | |
300 | 0.077 | 0.108 | 0.115 | 0.117 | 0.117 | 0.09 | 0.125 | 0.133 | 0.135 | 0.135 | |
350 | 0.067 | 0.098 | 0.106 | 0.109 | 0.109 | 0.078 | 0.113 | 0.122 | 0.126 | 0126 | |
400 | 0.06 | 0.091 | 0.099 | 0.103 | 0.104 | 0.07 | 0.105 | 0.114 | 0.118 | 0.12 | |
500 | 0.05 | 0.081 | 0.09 | 0.094 | 0.096 | 0.058 | 0.094 | 0.104 | 0.109 | 0.111 | |
600 | 0.043 | 0.075 | 0.084 | 0.089 | 0.092 | 0.05 | 0.086 | 0.097 | 0.103 | 0.106 | |
750 | 0.036 | 0.068 | 0.078 | 0.084 | 0.088 | 0.042 | 0.079 | 0.091 | 0.097 | 0.102 | |
1000 | 0.031 | 0.062 | 0.072 | 0.078 | 0.082 | 0.036 | 0.072 | 0.084 | 0.09 | 0.095 | |
Non-Magnetic | 14 | 5.369 | 5.876 | 4.355 | 3.83 | 3.301 | 6.2 | 5.63 | 5.029 | 4.422 | 3.812 |
12 | 3.464 | 3.158 | 2.827 | 2.491 | 2.153 | 4 | 3.647 | 3.264 | 2.877 | 2.486 | |
10 | 2.078 | 1.908 | 1.714 | 1.516 | 1.316 | 2.4 | 2.203 | 1.98 | 1.751 | 1.52 | |
8 | 1.35 | 1.255 | 1.134 | 1.01 | 0.882 | 1.56 | 1.449 | 1.31 | 1.166 | 1.019 | |
6 | 0.848 | 0.802 | 0.731 | 0.657 | 0.579 | 0.98 | 0.926 | 0.845 | 0.758 | 0.669 | |
4 | 0.536 | 0.519 | 0.479 | 0.435 | 0.388 | 0.62 | 0.599 | 0.553 | 0.502 | 0.448 | |
3 | 0.433 | 0.425 | 0.395 | 0.361 | 0.324 | 0.5 | 0.49 | 0.456 | 0.417 | 375 | |
2 | 0.329 | 0.33 | 0.31 | 0.286 | 0.259 | 0.38 | 0.381 | 0.358 | 0.33 | 0.3 | |
1 | 0.259 | 0.268 | 0.255 | 0.238 | 0.219 | 0.3 | 0.31 | 0.295 | 0.275 | 0.253 | |
1/0 | 0.207 | 0.22 | 0.212 | 0.199 | 0.185 | 0.24 | 0.254 | 0.244 | 0.23 | 0.214 | |
2/0 | 0.173 | 0.188 | 0.183 | 0.174 | 0.163 | 0.2 | 0.217 | 0.211 | 0.201 | 0.188 | |
3/0 | 0.133 | 0.151 | 0.15 | 0.145 | 0.138 | 0.154 | 0.175 | 0.173 | 0.167 | 0.159 | |
4/0 | 0.107 | 0.127 | 0.128 | 0.125 | 0.121 | 0.124 | 0.147 | 0.148 | 0.145 | 0.14 | |
250 | 0.09 | 0.112 | 0.114 | 0.113 | 0.11 | 0.104 | 0.129 | 0.132 | 0.131 | 0.128 | |
300 | 0.076 | 0.099 | 0.103 | 0.104 | 0.102 | 0.088 | 0.114 | 0.119 | 0.131 | 0.128 | |
350 | 0.065 | 0.089 | 0.094 | 0.095 | 0.094 | 0.076 | 0.103 | 0.108 | 0.11 | 0.109 | |
400 | 0.057 | 0.081 | 0.087 | 0.089 | 0.089 | 0.066 | 0.094 | 0.1 | 0.103 | 0.103 | |
500 | 0.046 | 0.071 | 0.077 | 0.08 | 0.082 | 0.054 | 0.082 | 0.09 | 0.093 | 0.094 | |
600 | 0.039 | 0.065 | 0.072 | 0.076 | 0.077 | 0.046 | 0.075 | 0.083 | 0.087 | 0.09 | |
750 | 0.032 | 0.058 | 0.065 | 0.07 | 0.072 | 0.038 | 0.067 | 0.076 | 0.08 | 0.083 | |
1000 | 0.025 | 0.051 | 0.059 | 0.063 | 0.066 | 0.03 | 0.059 | 0.068 | 0.073 | 0.077 |
Wire Types
The wire types table lists wire types that are provided with Revit.
Copper | Aluminum | ||||
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60 C | 75 C | 90 C | 60 C | 75 C | 90 C |
TW | FEPW | TA | TW | RH | TA |
UF | RH | TBS | UF | RHW | TBS |
RHW | SA | THHW | SA | ||
THHW | SIS | THW | SIS | ||
THW | FEP | THWN | THHN | ||
THWN | FEPB | XHHW | THHW | ||
USE | MI | USE | THW-2 | ||
ZW | RHH | THWN-2 | |||
RHW-2 | RHH | ||||
THHN | RHW-2 | ||||
THHW | USE-2 | ||||
THW-2 | XHH | ||||
THWN-2 | XHHW-2 | ||||
USE-2 | ZW-2 | ||||
XHH | |||||
XHHW | |||||
XHHW-2 | |||||
ZW-2 |
Wire Sizes
Revit specifies hot wire sizes according to the following table of basic wire sizes.
Copper | Aluminum | ||||||
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Size | Temperature Rating | Temperature Rating | Size | ||||
60 C | 75 C | 90 C | 60 C | 75 C | 90 C | ||
TW, UF | FEPW, RH, RHW, THHW, THW, THWN, USE, ZW | TA, TBS, SA, SIS, FEP, FEPB, MI, RHH, RHW-2, THHN, THHW, THW-2, THWN-2, USE-2, XHH, XHHW, XHHW-2, ZW | TW, UF | FEPW, RH, RHW, THHW, THW, THWN, USE, ZW | TA, TBS, SA, SIS, FEP, FEPB, MI, RHH, RHW-2, THHN, THHW, THW-2, THWN-2, USE-2, XHH, XHHW, XHHW-2, ZW | ||
18 | -- | -- | 14 | -- | -- | -- | 18 |
16 | -- | -- | 18 | -- | -- | -- | 16 |
14 | 15 | 15 | 15 | -- | -- | -- | 14 |
12 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 12 |
10 | 30 | 30 | 30 | 25 | 25 | 30 | 10 |
8 | 40 | 50 | 55 | 30 | 40 | 45 | 8 |
6 | 55 | 65 | 75 | 40 | 50 | 60 | 6 |
4 | 70 | 85 | 95 | 55 | 65 | 75 | 4 |
3 | 85 | 110 | 110 | 65 | 75 | 85 | 3 |
2 | 95 | 115 | 130 | 75 | 90 | 100 | 2 |
1 | 110 | 130 | 150 | 85 | 100 | 115 | 1 |
0 | 125 | 150 | 170 | 100 | 120 | 135 | 0 |
00 | 145 | 175 | 195 | 115 | 135 | 150 | 00 |
000 | 165 | 200 | 225 | 130 | 155 | 175 | 000 |
0000 | 195 | 230 | 260 | 150 | 180 | 205 | 0000 |
250 | 215 | 255 | 290 | 170 | 205 | 230 | 250 |
300 | 240 | 285 | 320 | 190 | 230 | 255 | 300 |
350 | 260 | 310 | 350 | 210 | 250 | 280 | 350 |
400 | 280 | 335 | 380 | 225 | 270 | 305 | 400 |
500 | 320 | 380 | 430 | 260 | 310 | 350 | 500 |
600 | 355 | 420 | 475 | 285 | 340 | 385 | 600 |
700 | 385 | 460 | 520 | 310 | 375 | 420 | 700 |
750 | 400 | 475 | 535 | 320 | 385 | 435 | 750 |
800 | 410 | 490 | 555 | 330 | 395 | 450 | 800 |
900 | 435 | 520 | 585 | 355 | 425 | 480 | 900 |
1000 | 455 | 545 | 615 | 375 | 445 | 500 | 1000 |
1250 | 495 | 590 | 665 | 405 | 485 | 545 | 1250 |
1500 | 520 | 625 | 705 | 435 | 520 | 585 | 1500 |
1750 | 545 | 650 | 735 | 455 | 545 | 615 | 1750 |
2000 | 560 | 665 | 750 | 470 | 560 | 630 | 2000 |
Wire Sizing Correction Factors
The circuit rating is adjusted according to the correction factors below (circuit rating * correction factor). Then the correct size for the selected wire type is found in the Wire Sizes table.
Ambient Temperature C | Ambient Temperature F | 60 C | 75 C | 90 C |
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21-25 | 70-77 | 1.08 | 1.05 | 1.04 |
26-30 | 78-86 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
31-35 | 87-95 | 0.91 | 0.94 | 0.96 |
36-40 | 96-104 | 0.82 | 0.88 | 0.91 |
41-45 | 105-113 | 0.71 | 0.82 | 0.87 |
46-50 | 114-122 | 0.58 | 0.75 | 0.82 |
51-55 | 123-132 | 0.41 | 0.67 | 0.76 |
56-60 | 132-140 | -- | 0.58 | 0.71 |
61-70 | 141-158 | -- | 0.33 | 0.58 |
71-80 | 159-176 | -- | -- | 0.41 |
Ground Wire Sizing
Ground conductors are sized according to the circuit rating.
Size | Copper | Aluminum | Size | Copper | Aluminum | |
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14 | 15 | -- | 250 | 2000 | 1200 | |
12 | 20 | 15 | 300 | 2000 | 1200 | |
10 | 60 | 20 | 350 | 2500 | 1600 | |
8 | 100 | 60 | 400 | 3000 | 2000 | |
6 | 200 | 100 | 500 | 4000 | 2000 | |
4 | 300 | 200 | 600 | 5000 | 3000 | |
3 | 400 | 200 | 700 | 5000 | 3000 | |
2 | 500 | 300 | 750 | 5000 | 3000 | |
1 | 600 | 400 | 800 | 6000 | 4000 | |
1/0 | 800 | 500 | 900 | 6000 | 4000 | |
2/0 | 1000 | 600 | 1000 | 6000 | 4000 | |
3/0 | 1200 | 800 | 1250 | 6000 | 5000 | |
4/0 | 1600 | 1000 |
Neutral Wire Sizing
When a Neutral Multiplier is specified, Revit calculates the neutral conductor size based on the cross sections listed in the following table:
Size (AWG/kcmil) | Diameter (in.) | Area (sq. in.) | Size (AWG/kcmil) | Diameter (in.) | Area (sq. in.) | |
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14 | 0.064080 | 0.0032250357 | 300 | 0.5477226 | 0.2356194490 | |
12 | 0.080810 | 0.0015288468 | 350 | 0.5916079 | 0.2748893572 | |
10 | 0.101900 | 0.0081552613 | 400 | 0.6324555 | 0.3141592653 | |
8 | 0.128500 | 0.0129686799 | 500 | 0.7071068 | 0.3929660816 | |
6 | 0.162000 | 0.0206119720 | 600 | 0.7745967 | 0.4712388980 | |
4 | 0.204300 | 0.0327813057 | 700 | 0.8366600 | 0.5497787144 | |
3 | 0.229400 | 0.0413310408 | 750 | 0.8660254 | 0.5890486225 | |
2 | 0.257600 | 0.0521172118 | 800 | 0.8944271 | 0.6283185307 | |
1 | 0.289300 | 0.0657664432 | 900 | 0.9486833 | 0.7068583471 | |
0 | 0.324900 | 0.0829065680 | 1000 | 1 | 0.785398163 | |
00 | 0.364800 | 0.1045199453 | 1250 | 1.118034 | 0.981747704 | |
000 | 0.409600 | 0.1317678350 | 1500 | 1.224745 | 1.178097245 | |
0000 | 0.460000 | 0.1661901110 | 1750 | 1.322876 | 1.374446786 | |
250 | 0.5 | 0.19634954085 | 2000 | 1.414214 | 1.570796327 |